Some Things Cannot be Known

Superfact 2 : Some Things Cannot Be Known

Some things cannot be known. There are things in mathematics and about our physical world that we know can never be known. For example, we can’t simultaneously know both the exact speed and the exact position of small particles (Heisenberg uncertainty principle). This is not because of a limitation of our instruments. It is a fundamental property of the Universe. But there are more examples of unattainable knowledge. In mathematics there are true statements that can never be proven.

“This”Some Things Cannot be Known” is the third post on my super-factful blog. As mentioned, the goal of this blog is to create a long list of facts that are important and known to be true, yet either disputed by large segments of the public or highly surprising or misunderstood by many. They are facts that are so unnecessarily controversial or astounding that I refer to them as super-facts.

This post is about a fact that may be highly surprising to many. Science knows a lot. People without a solid education in science are often surprised when they find out about some of the amazing things we actually do know.

For example, just by studying the light from a distant star, we can determine what elements it is composed of. The star may be composed of 71% hydrogen, 27% helium, 1% Lithium, and 1% other elements, and we can know that just from its light. We can also determine its temperature, the distance to the star, how it is moving compared to us, where it will be 2.5 million years from now, roughly its age and longevity, and more. 150 years ago, we could not have dreamed of this capability.

However, there are also many things we don’t know, and what may come as a big surprise, we know that there are things we can never know, no matter how advanced science becomes. Infinite experimentation, super intelligence, a quintillion super geniuses, infinite time, we simply cannot acquire some knowledge. The universe itself forbids some knowledge. It also means that the statement “nothing is impossible” is false.

At least my natural reaction to such a claim is, “come on you can’t say that with certainty”, and I expect many others will feel the same. However, the reason some knowledge will never be attainable is that physical laws as well as mathematics and logic forbid some knowledge. Some things are not meant to be known. I will give four examples in the four sections below: the event horizon, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, beyond the observable Universe, and Gödels incompleteness theorem.

The Event Horizon of a Black Hole

A black hole is a region of spacetime where gravity is so strong that nothing, including light, can escape it. The boundary of no escape is called the event horizon. If you pass the event horizon you cannot come back out no matter how much energy, you expand. Nothing can escape, no matter, no radiation, not light or other electromagnetic radiation, and no information. Nothing at all can escape. The curvature of time and space itself forbids it.

I should add that right at the event horizon, there is so called Hawking radiation, but without complicating things it is not the same thing as escaping a black hole. You can guess from physical laws what might be inside, but you can never observe and report what is inside to planet Earth.

I would also like to add some basic information about black holes. Some black holes are formed when large stars die and collapse. These black holes are estimated to have a mass of five to several tens of solar masses. However, there are also super massive black holes that reside in the center of galaxies.

The super massive black hole at the center of our galaxy, the Milky Way, is called Sagittarius A* and is estimated to have a mass of four million times the mass of our sun. The largest known supermassive black hole TON 618 is 66 billion times more massive than our sun. There are an estimated 100 million black holes in our own galaxy, the Milky Way. One interesting fact is that celestial objects can orbit a black hole, just like planets orbit the sun, but as you get too close you will rush, at the speed of light, into the depths of the black hole.

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that it’s not possible to know the position and momentum of an object with perfect accuracy at the same time. Another way of saying that is that we cannot know both the position and speed of a particle, such as a photon or electron, with perfect accuracy. The formula is: dX * dP >= h/4pi , or uncertainty in position (dX) times uncertainty in momentum (dP) is larger than half of Planck’s constant.  There is also an energy and time precision limit : dT * dE >= h/4pi.

These equations basically means that there are no perfectly exact measurements or knowledge. Everything is a bit fuzzy. Planck’s constant is very small, so Heisenberg uncertainty principle does not matter for everyday objects, but it matters when sizes are very small (positions, energies, etc.) Note, Heisenberg uncertainty principle is not because of a limitation of our equipment, but a limit set by a law of physics. It is a limitation set by the Universe if you will.

Beyond the observable Universe

The observable universe is a ball-shaped region of the universe consisting of all matter that currently can be observed from Earth or its space-based telescopes. The radius of the observable universe is 46.6 billion light-years. The size of the observable universe is growing. Unfortunately, at those distances, space itself is stretching/expanding faster than the speed of light. Since no signal or information can travel faster than the speed of light we are losing, not gaining, celestial objects from the observable universe.

In the past we’ve lost many galaxies this way. Since the expansion is accelerating, we will keep losing more galaxies beyond the boundary of the universe and some galaxies were always lost (with respect to observation). I can add that the universe may be infinite.

If we are wrong about the fact that the expansion of the universe is accelerating, then perhaps we can observe more galaxies in the future. But if not, then there are galaxies that we have never observed, galaxies that we can never observe, and there are galaxies that will become unobservable in the future. Depending on the size of the universe we may never be able to observe more than an infinitesimally small portion of the universe. Again, the universe is stopping us from knowing something.

Gödels incompleteness theorem(s)

The theorem states that in any reasonable mathematical system there will always be true statements that cannot be proved. In other words, to find a complete and consistent set of axioms for all mathematics is impossible. There are forever hidden truths in mathematics. For the case of natural numbers this means that there will always be statements about natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable. I can add that there is also a second incompleteness theorem that states that a formal system cannot prove that the system itself is consistent. Basically, there are limits to mathematics set by logic. And some things cannot be known.

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Author: thomasstigwikman

My name is Thomas Wikman. I am a software/robotics engineer with a background in physics. I am currently retired. I took early retirement. I am a dog lover, and especially a Leonberger lover, a home brewer, craft beer enthusiast, I’m learning French, and I am an avid reader. I live in Dallas, Texas, but I am originally from Sweden. I am married to Claudia, and we have three children. I have two blogs. The first feature the crazy adventures of our Leonberger Le Bronco von der Löwenhöhle as well as information on Leonbergers. The second blog, superfactful, feature information and facts I think are very interesting. With this blog I would like to create a list of facts that are accepted as true among the experts of the field and yet disputed amongst the public or highly surprising. These facts are special and in lieu of a better word I call them super-facts.View all posts by thomasstigwikman